Overstable vs Understable

A disc golf basket on a course

Disc golf has many unique words that beginners will hear during a round. Words like hyzer, flippy, and mando are examples of words that new players will be introduced to, and have to learn. When it comes to the flight of a disc, two important disc golf terms are ‘overstable’ and ‘understable’. These terms are commonly used to describe how a disc flies through the air. Let’s define those terms and learn how they are used.

Disc Stability

When we describe the flight of our discs, we are referring to how the disc behaves at the fastest part of the flight, the beginning, the middle part of the flight, and what it does as it slows down. We can then know the stability of the disc. To describe to others how our disc flies, we use the terms overstable, understable, and stable. In this blog we will define those terms and talk about how they might not make your description clear.

Let’s start with ‘understable’.

Understable Discs

A flight chart showing the understable flight of the Sphinx

 

The term understable refers to a disc that moves to the right, on a RHBH throw, at the fastest part of the flight. That movement to the right is known as ‘turn’ in disc golf. Typically, if a disc has a lot of turn, it won’t have as much ‘fade’ at the end. Fade is a word used to describe how the disc behaves as it slows down, and refers to how much a disc moves to the left at the end of its flight. A disc with a lot of turn typically doesn’t have a lot of fade.

Check out this list of the highest rated understable discs.

Check out the top very understable discs here.

Overstable Discs

A flight chart showing the overstable flight of the Scepter

 

The term overstable references the movement of the disc to the left at the end of the flight. The more overstable a disc, the more movement to the left, and the more fade it has. If a disc has a lot of fade, it usually doesn’t have much turn. In fact, it might not have any turn. Those discs are great for headwind shots, since they resist turning and give a consistent flight.

Check out the best overstable discs

Check out the best very overstable discs

Stable Discs

The flight of a straight mold, the Squire

The term stable can have a couple different meanings, depending on how it is being used. It is commonly used to describe a disc with a straight flight. It can also be used to mean less extreme in stability. For example, I’ve heard someone say that their disc is too flippy, and they need something a little more stable. I’ve also heard people say their disc is too beefy, and they want something more stable. Both comments are saying that the person has something that is too extreme, and they want something less extreme.

Check out the top rated stable discs

Flight Numbers

 

We’ve covered what overstable, understable, and stable mean, so now we can look at how to tell which discs fall into each category. We can learn a disc’s stability by finding out its flight numbers, which give us a quick way to understand how it’s designed to fly. Often times the flight numbers are stamped on the disc. If not, you can go to www.infinitediscs.com to look up the flight numbers.

A chart showing the flight ratings of two different discs.

Keep in mind, flight numbers are not an exact science. Weight, plastic type, and players skill level all affect how the disc will fly.  The numbers give you a general idea of how the disc will fly, then you can use them to determine how it will fly for you. If you are a beginner, for example, most discs will be overstable to you. A disc that is very understable might be what you will throw until your skill improves.

Disc Flight Number Examples

Let’s take a look at a couple examples of overstable, stable, and understable discs. We’ll start with two speed 9 discs, the Sphinx and the Scepter.

Overstable Scepter

An Infinite Discs Scepter

The flight numbers for the Scepter are 9, 4, 0, 4.

  • The 9 represents the relative speed that the disc needs to be thrown in order for it to fly like the rest of the numbers indicate.
  • The first 4 indicates the amount of glide. The Scepter isn’t the disc of choice if you want to throw a long way.
  • The 0 is the turn. A 0 means the Scepter will fight a headwind, or handle the torque of a forehand.
  • The second four is the amount of fade the disc has as it slows down. Four is a lot of fade, and the disc is very overstable.

The combination of low glide, no turn, and high fade indicate that the Scepter is an overstable disc.

Understable Sphinx

An Infinite Discs Sphinx disc golf disc

The flight numbers for the Sphinx are 9, 6, -3, 1.

  • Again, the 9 is the relative throwing speed.
  • The 6 is a high glide number. The Sphinx can be thrown a long way.
  • The -3 means the disc has a lot of turn. It may be too much turn for better players or for headwind shots. The Sphinx is an understable disc.
  • A mild 1 for the fade means the Sphinx will not fade hard to the left at the end of its flight.

The high glide, high amount of turn, and low fade lets you know the Sphinx is an understable disc.

Stable Squire

An Infinite Discs Squire

The flight numbers for the Squire are 8, 6, 0, 1.

  • The 8 is the relative speed.
  • Like the Sphinx, the Squire has a high glide of 6.
  • The 0 indicates no turning.
  • The 1 means the fade is not substantial.

The Squire has little turn and fade, and is a straight-flying, stable driver.

Getting a Visual Description of Stability

Conner made a video about stability that will let you see examples of overstable and understable discs and flights. It will be helpful for visual learners. Check it out here:

Conclusion

We hope this blog helped you learn more about disc golf terminology. Knowing what unique words are used in disc golf will help you feel more confident about talking with other disc golfers, as well as understanding what people mean when they use those term.

Best Distance Drivers 2025

infinite discs emperor

When you want to get the most distance from your drives, you’re usually reaching for your high-speed drivers. Also called distance driver, this type of disc has the widest rim of all types, and the usually require the most skill to maximize the achievable distance. They are the super-athlete of the disc golf world, since they hold distance records, and are used by pros and amateurs alike. Much like our Best Putters, Best Midranges, and Best Fairway Drivers we will look at the sales data to find the best disc golf distance drivers for 2025, and give you some ideas of discs you might want to try.

Like always, we’ll start by showing the Best Distance Drivers for 2024

Best Disc Golf Distance Drivers 2024

Taking the top spot for sales is the Innova Wraith. innova wraithThe Wraith is a speed 11 disc that has a flight similar to some of the other top discs on the list. Taking second is the Infinite Discs Emperor, followed by the most popular driver of all time, the Innova Destroyer.

Top Wraith Plastics

Checking out the top plastic sales for the number one Wraith we find that the most popular Wraith plastic sold is Star plastic. Star plastic outsold second place Gummy Champion by three times! It was responsible for over a third of all Wraith sales last year. The third place most popular plastic is GStar.

top Wraith plastics

Now let’s look at the top sellers for last year.

Top 50 Best Disc Golf Distance Drivers 2025

chart showing the best disc golf distance drivers

The MVP Trail isn’t even two years old, but is very popular. An MVP trail disc golf discThe speed-10 mold from MVP has a stable flight that is useful for a wide range of skill levels. It dethroned the Innova Wraith, which dropped to fourth place. Taking second to the Trail is the ever-popular Infinite Discs Emperor. Third on the list is the Innova Destroyer.

The top four molds on the list make up a quarter of all distance driver sales. Innova and Infinite are regular names at the top of the list. It was nice to see MVP break into the elite ranks.

Here are the links to the top 10 discs on the list.

  1. MVP Trail
  2. Infinite Discs Emperor
  3. Innova Destroyer
  4. Innova Wraith
  5. Infinite Discs Pharaoh
  6. Innova Mamba
  7. MVP Wave
  8. Innova Gorgon
  9. Infinite Discs Maya
  10. Thought Space Athletics Expanse

Check out the top selling drivers HERE

Most Brands In The Top 50

There are ten different brands who have a disc in the top 50 best discs. That is down a couple from last year. Let’s take a look at which brands are represented, and how many molds they have on the list.

chart showing the number of molds for each disc golf brand in the top 50

innova logo

The top few brands are not a surprise. Innova and Discraft are some of the oldest disc golf brands, and sponsor some top pros. Their size gives them a lot more marketing opportunities. That helps them manage to stay on top despite all of the newer brands that have hit the market the last decade.

Top Rated Drivers

We’ve looked at the sales data for the top distance drivers, and now we’ll look at the top RATED discs. The infinite discs website allows customers to leave feedback and ratings on discs and accessories, and is a good resource for finding highly rated disc products. Let’s look at some of the distance drivers with the highest ratings. For our ‘Highest Rated’ sections, our system sorts by mold and plastic type.

Highest Rated Distance Drivers

infinite discs emperor

Taking the number one spot with the highest consumer rating for distance drivers is Infinite Discs’ popular high-speed driver, the Emperor. The speed 12 driver has a popular flight that features a little turn with a reliable solid fade. It is available in numerous plastic types. It is also the signature disc of some of the top pros. The I-Blend Emperor has a 4.93 rating out of 5. Nearly perfect!

In second place with a rating of 4.86 is the Star Innova Wraith. Taking third is the Discmania Neo Enigma. The Enigma has a customer rating of 4.73.

Check out the highest rated distance drivers HERE

Highest Rated Overstable Distance Drivers

Since the Emperor is considered an overstable driver and is the highest rated driver, it is obviously going to be the highest rated overstable driver. In this category, the Emperor took first, second, and tied for third, with three different plastics represented.  In second place with 4.91 stars out of five is the Signature Swirly S-Blend. In third place at 4.90 stars is the Signature I-Blend. Also at 4.90 is the Halo Star Destroyer.

Check out the top overstable disc golf distance drivers HERE and you can see what’s on sale!

Highest Rated Understable Disc Golf Driver

infinite discs sphinx

Looking at the other end of the stability spectrum we have the highest rated understable drivers. The Innova Tern took the top two spots. The Star Tern is the highest rated at 4.78. Just a little behind the Star is the Champion Tern, with 4.69 stars. Infinite Discs’ I-Blend Maya came in third with its 4.68 rating.

The next two molds on the understable list, the Axiom Insanity and the Lone Star Disc Mockingbird, are tied at an impressive rating of 4.79.

Check out the top 20 understable disc golf distance drivers HERE and you can see all the top molds and what’s on sale!

Highest Rated Stable & Straight Flying Drivers

Checking out distance drivers with a more neutral flight, meaning An Infinite Discs Splatter S-Blend Pharaohlittle turn and a less aggressive fade, we find the stable Infinite Discs Splatter S-Blend Pharaoh leading the pack for the title of Best Stable Distance Driver with a rating of 4.91. The Pharaoh is a high-speed driver that comes in a variety of plastics.

In second place with a rating of 4.89 is the Streamline Neutron SL Trace.  In the last podium spot, we find the MVP Neutron Tesla, rated at 4.4 out of five stars.

Check out the top 20 stable disc golf distance drivers HERE and you can see all the top molds and what’s on sale!

Let Us Know About YOUR Favorite Drivers!

Those are our lists of the top distance drivers with sales and ratings data. Let’s add to the data by hearing from YOU! Answer one or more of the following questions:

1 – What is your favorite distance driver?
2 – What is your favorite over/understable distance driver?
3 – What do you think will be the best distance driver for next year?

 

Focus Friday – Infinite Discs Scepter

For our Focus Friday this week, we are going to spotlight the SCEPTER by Infinite Discs. Originally PDGA approved on April 3rd of 2019, the Scepter is an overstable control driver with a flat top and a 1.9cm rim thickness. It was designed together with manufacturer Innova Champion Discs to provide a Firebird-like disc that always has a flat top. Flat-topped discs are very popular with power throwers or those who primarily drive forehand. The flat top gives forehand throwers a better grip with the thumb on top of the disc and more controlled release. The design has also proven very useful when throwing into headwinds or when throwing high, spike-hyzers that need to drop from above onto the target.

THE SCEPTER

The Scepter can be wielded with strength and confidence on the course. The limited edition first release had a cool, 2-color stamp and the stock stamp came out shortly afterward on C-Blend plastic with a total run of 800 discs.  The 2nd run was a special edition in Metal Flake Glow C-Blend, which turned out even flatter on the top and looked great. So far, those were used for tournament support and in a limited edition with a Scorpio Zodiac stamp (originally released in the VIP Club Store).

The C-Blend SCEPTER was picked by professional FPO disc golfer, Nicole “Pickle” Dionisio to be her  signature disc, since she is a strong forehand player and loved the feel of the disc. She is a great member of Team Infinite. Her signature edition features a beautifully intricate stamp design by Thought Space Athletics (another of her sponsors).

Here is a 60-second video review of the SCEPTER by Taylor AuBuchon which shows the disc’s overstable flight characteristics. You can also see the limited edition 2-foil stamp in his review.

TRY OUT THE SCEPTER WITH A BIG DISCOUNT!

For the next week, through Friday, February 14th, you can pick up a SCEPTER from Infinite Discs with a huge 20% discount when you use the following promo code:

FOCUS-SCEPTER

CLICK HERE TO SHOP FOR THE SCEPTER.  Simply add as may Scepter discs to your shopping cart as you want, then BEFORE you click to checkout, look below the shopping cart. Right below the shopping cart is a box for Discount Codes. Click there and paste the code into the box. Then proceed to checkout and you’ll get the discount.

Here is a screenshot to help you out, though it doesn’t necessarily show a Scepter in the cart, or the 20% discount– it’s just a generic visual to help you find the discount code box:

We hope that you love throwing the SCEPTER by Infinite Discs. If you’ve thrown the disc, feel free to post your comments in the comments. Thanks!

STAY TUNED for our next Focus Friday for another change to try a featured disc at a nice discounted price!

Infinite Discs RUIN – Overstable Approach Disc

THE CONCEPT

Infinite Discs is very excited to kick-off the 2020 year with a new disc release to help enhance your disc golf short game. We’ve been working with Innova, the manufacturer of the Infinite Discs line, to create a mold for a small diameter, overstable approach disc. We’ve noticed that a lot of players, including pro players, have turned from standard mid-range discs to approach discs that have dimensions more like putters. We wanted a disc that would fit that trend, with a relatively flat-top and manageable rim size for both forehand and backhand throwers. We also wanted the disc to be overstable enough that it could be thrown with speed and confidence to hold the line for a longer stretch and still finish with a solid fade.

Maybe you’ve watched players like Paul McBeth throw the Discraft Zone for shots approaching the basket from a couple hundred feet away. Or you’ve watched Ricky Wysocki throw some amazing approach shots with the Innova Pig (used to throw the Westside Harp for similar shots). The list could go on, with many players using overstable “putt-and-approach” discs to get through tight fairways or to make runs at the basket from longer distances. That’s what we wanted in our own disc line.

THE PROTOTYPE TEST

Several months passed while the mold was created and prepared for a test run. In late 2019 we received a small box of prototype discs from the Innova factory so we could test our overstable approach disc. It was exactly what we were hoping for. The profile was just right with a flat-top that would feel great for forehand approach shots, plus a rim size that was not too tall so that it could also be thrown backhand with comfort.

Some of us at Infinite Discs took the disc out to throw it around and see how it flew. It felt like a great overstable complement to the already popular Infinite Discs Tomb, which is more of a straight-flying approach disc with minimal fade. We could throw the new test disc even harder without turning it over and it had significantly more fade.

We made the remaining prototype discs available to Team Infinite and VIP Club members as “Infinite Proto Mold #15” and those few discs sold out immediately. Our office team sought feedback from outside players who picked up those prototypes, and that feedback was very positive. So, we decided to order a complete run in durable, long-lasting C-Blend plastic (Infinite Discs equivalent to Innova Champion plastic).

COMING UP WITH THE NAME

You may have noticed that the Infinite Discs lineup has been using names that primarily recall ancient cultures. The brand kicked off with ancient Egyptian references, including the Pharaoh, the RA, the Sphinx, etc. Some discs were named after elements that could move across different ancient cultures, like the Myth, the Tomb, or the Chariot.  In the second year, we moved into some ancient Roman names like the Emperor, the Centurion, the Cohort, etc. Our third year is intended to be themed with ancient American cultural names, like with the early release of the Aztec. But with the new approach disc, we again wanted to pick a name that would cross all of the cultures.

Plus, as an overstable approach disc, we thought it should sound dense, or heavy. Well, all of the ancient cultures we know about have left their mark on the landscape through ruins. The heavy, megalithic ruins tend to last the longest and are often more memorable. Whether the ancient pyramids, the ruins of the Roman Empire, or the impressive temples of central and south America, we can still see and visit the remains of those cultures today.

Thus, the RUIN was named and will feature artwork with any number of ancient cultural references. The name was first revealed with the PDGA approval announcement. We found some of the initial reactions to the name to be quite humorous. “This disc is going to RUIN your game,” or “this disc will RUIN the course.” Luckily, most of us at Infinite Discs think that disc golf should be fun and that making fun of names is pretty harmless. So, why not wreak wreck and ruin with your overstable approach disc?

The RUIN was born.

THE LIMITED EDITION FIRST RELEASE

Infinite Discs has kicked off some of the previous disc releases with limited edition stamps. We thought the RUIN deserved the same treatment, so our initial limited edition will feature an XXL stamp. And what better way to ruin the ancient Egyptian ruins than with an alien invasion? Some of our stamps featuring Aliens taking over ancient cultures have been well received, so this fits right in.

WATCH FOR THE LIMITED EDITION RELEASE ON JANUARY 17th, 2020

Note: Some X-Out / Factory 2nd discs were made available in advance of the release, for those who wanted to try it early.

Also watch for a limited edition Las Vegas Challenge I-Blend RUIN to be featured in the am player packs at the event!

 

FOCUS FRIDAY – THE YIKUN LU (LUAN)

We’ve started taking the opportunity to focus on specific discs in specific plastic types on Fridays and call them “FOCUS FRIDAY” blogs. We may not make it on every week, but we’ll try to keep some fresh discs in the spotlight on a somewhat regular basis.

Our New Focus Friday Features the Yikun LU (or LUAN)

The LU by Yikun Discs (also called the “Luan”) was originally introduced in Phoenix Line plastic which is a durable, translucent plastic similar to popular blends like Innova Champion or Discraft Z Line. But more recently, Yikun experimented with a new version of the plastic which is now called PHOENIX STAR. This new plastic blend is gummy and flexible, like the discontinued Frost Line plastic by Latitude 64, or the sometimes seen Gummy Champion by Innova. It’s a great plastic blend for cold weather when discs tend to stiffen-up. It feels truly unique.

The disc itself came out VERY flat in the Phoenix Star plastic. It almost has the profile of a dinner plate! It is a wide rim driver at maximum “speed 14” and an overstable finish. This is a great utility disc when you want a hard fade at the end of flight, or if you love to crank sidearm (forehand) or overhand (tomahawk style). Power throwers will love cranking on the LU, and more intermediate players will find it to be a very useful overstable disc when a lot of side-to-side movement is needed on the course. The disc can also be used for a huge spike-hyzer.

Here is a little clip of an amateur throwing the overstable LU after showing how flexible it is. You can see how dramatically it fades once it loses speed.

Three Words: FLAT, FLEXIBLE, and FAST!

This week (until Saturday the 2nd of November) you can get your hands on the LU with a great discount of 20% OFF! Simply add the LU discs to your cart that you desire, then before clicking to “Checkout,” look below your shopping cart for the Discount Code box and enter this code:

FOCUS-LU

Then click “Checkout” to proceed to the payment screen with the 20% discount applied. The discount will apply to all the LU discs in your shopping cart.